Pure signal.

Rick Warren is an astonishingly stupid man

Embarrassingly stupid. This is what passes for a public intellectual in American society. No wonder Europeans look down on us.

“Al-Qaida no more represents Islam than the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity,” he contended. “Actually, if you study the background of al-Qaida, they were influenced by the same people who influenced Hitler. It was a lot of secular writers and Nietzsche and nihilists and stuff like that.”

Taken from a WorldNetDaily interview.

Nietzsche is responsible for Islamic terrorism. And an Orange Country Christian is pointing this out to the world. And he claims that he came to this conclusion by “study.”

And actually Rick — the KKK does represent Christianity. They may not represent you, but they claim the cross. And Al Qaida very specifically represents Islam. But I have yet to see ole Freddy’s picture on any Al Qaida literature. Of course they aren’t into pictures. I just can’t imagine suicide bombers praying over “Daybreak” before blowing up an elementary school. Maybe my imagination is too limited, obviously yours isn’t, Rick.

I am at a loss for words. I just want to put this quote up so that the next time someone recommends the “Purpose Driven Life” to me (which I have read and confess is merely banal and not actually evil. I mean — it was a lost two hours of my life — but I have wasted lots of time doing lots of stupid things I can’t blame him for it.) I have a link I can send them.

Oh! The Humanity! Warren unveiled but no one reads so no one cares.

Can Warren’s points in this article actually be defended? I mean — what he conducts here is not actually argument — so I’m wondering, is there an inteligent person somewhere who could take his assertions and defend them in a way that doesn’t make him look like a mouth breather? Beyond that — does he himself care about truth at all? Does he actually believe this crap, or is it a posture he assumes to accomplish other ends?

I have been told by a lot of people who I have challenged on the topic of global warming that they don’t really care about the issue per se — but that it is a symbol for them of the more general problem of pollution. I think that is a sin against intellectual integrity — but it is a more defensible position than the claim that global warming is real. Is Warren doing something like that here?

I try for a “nicer” address of Warren here.


December 15, 2007 - Posted by | People who fucking Suck


  1. Mind you, World Net Daily is the lunatic fringe itself, which is why I included a link to the article. I suppose it is possible that they just made up the interview — they have some highly questionable articles on their site. But the level of fraud which that would entail in a series of three feature articles based on an interview would be extreme. Warren has responded to blog-based criticism in the past by saying that bloggers were careless in their quotations. The quote looks more like genuine carelessness on his part “lets blame this on someone nobody likes” than fraud on their part.

    In a fit of regret and potential embarrassment I have emailed him directly to confirm and explain the quote. It should be fun to see if I have to grovel due to a failure of due diligence, or if I was spot on with my impression.

    Telephones are standing by…

    Comment by bootslack | December 15, 2007 | Reply

  2. OK — no response to fact checking question — so next time you hear this loser complain about bloggers you know whats up. And of course I didn’t include the name of my post in the request.

    This really bugs me though — and it bugs me that someone can make such a claim and have it just wash by. The irony (ohhh! the IRONY!) being that it is such a breach of intellectual integrity, which is the very ground of Nietzsche’s claim that Religion has become untenable. (although curiously, I don’t think that is why he himself would reject it.)

    So that’s fine, America, sleep well while even your authors are illiterate. And where the literati are illiterate, from where shall the illiterate be literated? litterfied? Oh shut up.

    Comment by bootslack | December 29, 2007 | Reply

  3. so bitter eh? go read the purpose driven life

    Comment by Anonymous | July 14, 2008 | Reply

  4. LOL! 🙂

    Comment by bootslack | July 14, 2008 | Reply

  5. Sometimes I write something mean and then I feel bad about it later — it’s been almost a year and every time I come back to this I shake my head and laugh.

    What an idiot.

    Comment by bootslack | October 9, 2008 | Reply

  6. Argghhh… I received an email today from “ How stupid! I was annoyed and vexed. Are we really living in this archaic society with religious dogma? I thought, we as a civilized society were past this! Don’t get me wrong I have my beliefs like the next person, but leave me alone, I want to hear about your stupid ideology, just like you want to hear about mine. After all “WE ARE ALL RIGHT”. There are some “crazy’s” that need to be locked up in a padded cell with a tape recorder for spreading their manure, leave me alone! (The tape recorder is for when we have all the REAL world problems figured out we can come back to the crap and weed through it) hmmm… theology… anyone for history here?

    Comment by Melissa Schapiro | November 1, 2008 | Reply

  7. Please read “Worship of Mass Dysfunction”. This book details the events leading up to and the events following Pastor Roddy Clyde’s embezzlement and subsequent arrest. The book provides a harrowing account of how purpose driven concepts can cause harm.

    Comment by Kim Francis | August 17, 2009 | Reply

  8. I think the author of this article doesn’t seem to understand what the word “represent” means.

    Comment by Darrin | March 8, 2011 | Reply

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